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Re: Hanks wireless system

Postby iefje » 15 Aug 2010, 12:42

I have heard an audio recording of The Shadows' 1982 Autumn "Life In The Jungle" tour, on which Hank and Bruce were using radio transmitters for their guitars for the first time, or maybe the first time in the 1980's. Because I seem to recall something saying on this forum (or the old MSN version), The Shadows had already experimented with radio transmitters in the 1960's.
Anyway, early in the show, The Shadows played "Albatross", but then halfway through the track, something began to interfere with Hank's radio transmitter and the group stops playing. After that, Hank and Bruce cover the malfunction up, by making some jokes, after which Hank switches to a normal guitar lead and the group again play "Albatross", this time without technical difficulties.
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Re: Hanks wireless system

Postby McShadow » 15 Aug 2010, 16:12

for my birthday earlier this week, my better half bought me one of the earlier mentioned samson units (branded pro-sound by maplin) i took it back the next day... not impressed at all
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Re: Hanks wireless system

Postby Lee Restarick » 17 Aug 2010, 13:46

Just to confirm, it seems there is actually an older version of the Airline 77 which is now discontinued.
http://www.samsontech.com/products/productpage.cfm?prodID=1847&brandID=1
Could this be the reason why myself and others (including Hank!!) had this problem, perhaps the older version did have a fault.
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Re: Hanks wireless system

Postby Didier » 17 Aug 2010, 14:11

iefje wrote:I have heard an audio recording of The Shadows' 1982 Autumn "Life In The Jungle" tour, on which Hank and Bruce were using radio transmitters for their guitars for the first time, or maybe the first time in the 1980's. Because I seem to recall something saying on this forum (or the old MSN version), The Shadows had already experimented with radio transmitters in the 1960's.

As far as I know, the first to use radio transmitter was Bo Winberg from The Spotnicks. He used his own designed and built system, but when playing in Paris he had interference problems with the Police radio transmissions...

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Re: Hanks wireless system

Postby Didier » 17 Aug 2010, 14:14

RogerF wrote:I played many Shadows numbers live on stage and never experienced any problems with attack, quite the contrary.
Hank's sound on "The Final Tour" was at times muddy and distorted (e.g. Kon Tiki) but I doubt this was caused by the Tx/Rx setup.

The culprit is supposed to be an input overload on his Alesis Q20 used for echoes.

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Re: Hanks wireless system

Postby Apache1 » 18 Aug 2010, 01:35

I myself use a Samson wireless system and have never had any problems whatsoever with it the batteries last a good time it gives me excellent sound I have not noticed any of the forementioned problems.
My opening comment was that I noticed that Hank was not using the Samson system on the 50th anniversary tour maybe due to them playing very large
venu's and a stronger signal might have been required, I was informed that he used a "Shure" system I wonder which one it was ? I still think the samson
is a good design as you dont need a large pack attached to your guitar strap at the back, just the bug that fits in the jack socket. great idea. and affordable
at around £150.
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Re: Hanks wireless system

Postby John M » 25 Aug 2010, 08:05

Further to my comments on the "swell like" performance of the Samsons I came across this the other night when looking for another related piece of information.
It comes from a Shure we site and describes the effect the Samsons seemed to displaying..

How does it work?
Audio Reference Companding is a level-dependent companding scheme. Instead of companding across the entire dynamic range like most wireless systems (causing a whooshing audio artifact known as "breathing"), companding only occurs at high audio levels. These levels are high enough to make the companding artifacts inaudible.


My guess at companding seemed to be borne out by this short piece.
More can be found here:-

http://www.shure.com/americas/support/t ... companding
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