TONIGHT. RADIO 2. 10 o'clock

[anniv 63]

Wrong fact stated by Mr Hawley that Shindig was the last recording featuring
Brian Locking only error noted .
Programme aimed at a general Radio2 audience as expected.

Mike

[Arpeggio]

Well spotted Mike, Licorice's final recordings with the Shads were "Theme For Young Lovers" and "Walkin'" - both taped on November 1st 1963. They were both intended for "Wonderful Life" & weren't released until 1964. As John Rostill featured prominently in the movie and, of course, the tracks became associated with the soundtrack - the programme's researchers doubtless just assumed that John played on the tracks. At least they didn't say that Lic's final track was "Geronimo" -which, although it charted after "Shindig" was actually recorded before that track. They were close - but not correct.

Bests....Rob

[captainhaddock]

Totally disappointed. No goose bumps or wet eye like with Radio 4's TheThing About Hank.

Only Jeff Beck found to give a not entirely glowing tribute - and he was only on the phone.

No mention to speak of of the considerable solo achievements of all of them.

Last 40 years done seemingly in 3 minutes - first ten in 40.

Rhythm and Greens - why? - their biggest mistake.

No real story of the 20 Golden Greats phenomenon followed by major chart hits again.

And no mention of the worldwide bedroom players, Shadowmania etc.

Etc Etc

I totally agree, you have put it so much better than I did. It was a lost chance really.
The "Bedroom players" are actually worth a programme on their own.

What a shame.

[LONGPLAYER09]

Could have been made in two parts perhaps.

[iefje]

I haven't heard the broadcast, but is this the radio special in which Brian Bennett mentions that at the end of the 1980's and early 1990's "the argument started again"? If so, then I have heard it before.
It's indeed surprising that most time of the radio special is devoted to the first ten years, while a lot of events have taken place in the group's career after 1968. From the group's reformation in 1973 to 1990, they didn't spend as much time together each year, like they used to in the 1960's, so maybe that's why much less attention has been paid to that part of the group's history.

[drakula63]

First of all, whilst I remember... Who exactly is John 'Fer-raaah'?!!!!

I listened and enjoyed, but the same niggles occured to me as, evidently, to everyone else.

Yes, the 'golden era' was covered in great detail, but the late Sixties and 'rennaissance' were all but ignored. It was good to hear a little bit of Marvin. Welch & Farrar, but more on the Eurovision/20 Golden Greats/later hit singles would have been nice. I also found it amusing that when talking about the John Peel programme from '74, they couldn't even play an actual clip from it!!! And, although I have no doubt that he is a huge fan, Richard Hawley sounded tired and bored, not exactly enthusing about it, to my ears.

One thing I did learn was that Hank and Bruce had backed Benny Hill. Never heard that one before. Never heard Alan Hawkshaw either - and the Radio Times indicates that he was one of the interviewees.

Oh well, by no means perfect, but good that they got some coverage on national radio. Next time we need a THREE PARTER - 60s, 70s and 80s...

[GoldenStreet]

Like most of us, probably, I didn't really expect to learn much I didn't know already, but it was interesting to hear Hank recalling the "Go As You Please" club sessions during his and Bruce's early Railroaders days in Newcastle (pity there are no recordings of them!).

Also, when Brian was talking about the EMI studio sessions, and his reference to Peter Vince, it would have been nice if Malcolm Addey had received an honourable mention as engineer largely responsible for capturing the sounds of the classic period. Good to hear Licorice, though, whose speaking voice I'd never heard before.

Bill

[Jay Bass]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... e_Shadows/


BBC i PLAYER LINK
from 5.20

Regards
Jay

[George Geddes]

By coincidence, my son was interviewing Richard Hawley this very lunchtime for a forthcoming newpaper feature, and (without prompting, I hasten to add) asked about the Shads connection. He is indeed a big fan, and mentioned 'Scotch on the socks' as a particular favourite.

George

[Paul Childs]

Listening to this program and other programs about them and reading about them over the years, it was a lot easier to get started equipment wise back then with less expense. Hank had ''a Hofner and a small amp to be heard above Bruce's acoustic''.
A few years later in the late 60s, to play anywhere even locally you needed a van load of equipment, e.g. backline (usually Marshall stacks or similar), P.A., columb speakers, all out of reach for many 16 year olds even with full time jobs as equipment even second hand was very overpriced.
A lot of good guitar players back then never got past playing in the garage.
As for hire purchase, you had to be over 21 to take one out and a lot of parents back then had an old fashioned attitude towards it and wouldn't sign it for you.