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Re: Shadows unreleased material

Postby captainhaddock » 03 Oct 2013, 19:13

How about a nice speechless version of "Winchester Cathedral" from "Jigsaw". What may have seemed funny in 1967. is a tad embarassing 46 years on !
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Re: Shadows unreleased material

Postby Iain Purdon » 03 Oct 2013, 23:31

I made one. A little editing and you can make a good instro of Winchester Cathedral.
Ditto Razzmatazz
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Re: Shadows unreleased material

Postby captainhaddock » 04 Oct 2013, 08:41

Aye' Razzamatazz, a good track spoiled. I wonder if "Scotch On the socks" can be diluted or "Dear old Mrs Bell" have the extraneous words removed ?
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Re: Shadows unreleased material

Postby iefje » 04 Oct 2013, 10:57

Being non-British, I do very much admire the English language ('English' English that is) and its mostly dry and 'implicit' humour and quips. Even though "Scotch On The Socks" and "Winchester Cathedral" are 47 and 46 years old respectively, I still laugh when I hear John's vocal interludes during the former track and the whole of the group during the droll intro to the latter track.
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Re: Shadows unreleased material

Postby GoldenStreet » 04 Oct 2013, 11:33

JimN wrote: If there is anyone reading this with access to Rollercoaster Records: please suggest it immediately.

I'll even undertake to do all the copying.


Would not John Beecher, who has posted previously on the forum (as Rollercoaster), be the man to contact?

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Re: Shadows unreleased material

Postby anniv 63 » 04 Oct 2013, 16:16

With the limitless it seems, issues of out of current copyright material on 50/60s CD compilation issues, the question
must be is it making money or profit for these issuers/ record labels and what are the actual sales in numbers?
Rollercoaster at one time were among an elite band of Companies specialising in this type of market , and doing it very well too.
Now we have new entrants with a lot of mish mash stuff poor sleeve notes etc.
John Beecher would of course know that fans want a quality product, and will pay at a full price amount CD
He is the guy to make that decision on possible future issues ,based on sales and profitability ?

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Re: Shadows unreleased material

Postby Fenderman » 04 Oct 2013, 20:21

captainhaddock wrote:Aye' Razzamatazz, a good track spoiled. I wonder if "Scotch On the socks" can be diluted or "Dear old Mrs Bell" have the extraneous words removed ?


Wouldn't it be better if they just wiped Dear Old Mrs Bell? It's one of the worst tracks they ever made, i always skip it. Why they released it as a single in 1968 was beyond me, it was never a potential hit.
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Re: Shadows unreleased material

Postby MeBHank » 05 Oct 2013, 00:46

Fenderman wrote:
captainhaddock wrote:Aye' Razzamatazz, a good track spoiled. I wonder if "Scotch On the socks" can be diluted or "Dear old Mrs Bell" have the extraneous words removed ?


Wouldn't it be better if they just wiped Dear Old Mrs Bell? It's one of the worst tracks they ever made, i always skip it. Why they released it as a single in 1968 was beyond me, it was never a potential hit.

I suppose it was due to the success of Keith West's Excerpt from "A Teenage Opera", released the previous year. A sad, wistful song about someone in society who doesn't know how appreciated they are by some people. Dear Old Mrs Bell is one of my favourite Shadows vocals. I wanted to perform it with the Shadowers, but after seeing so many people deride it on the internet I've decided to ditch the idea. Such a shame. Not only do I like the music, but I think it's a dark yet beautifully delicate acknowledgement of the more unfortunate, lonely figures in society. It encourages people to search beyond someone's reputation and see the person. I love it.

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Re: Shadows unreleased material

Postby Iain Purdon » 06 Oct 2013, 20:57

Mrs Bell... To paraphrase Miss Jean Brodie, "for people who don't like that sort of thing, that is the sort of thing they don't like."

There's a lot about that number that's good. I quite enjoy watching the version with Brian unusually out front. Once a year at Shadowmania was probably enough for me but I'd never wipe it!

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Re: Shadows unreleased material

Postby JimN » 06 Oct 2013, 21:27

The other side of the record was better.
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