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Re: Hendrix

Postby Uncleboko » 30 Nov 2013, 23:12

Gary Allen wrote:Can we move on and start a Clapton vs Marvin debate ?


Clapton when? Now in 1965-66 you see, Clapton was was way ahead of anyone in his style as was Hank, but now - I can't listen to him, boring as hell, whereas Hank continues to improve!
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Re: Hendrix

Postby Paul Childs » 01 Dec 2013, 12:06

JimN wrote:
roger bayliss wrote: Jeff Beck goes on from strength to strength to this day and he has been the one to innovate and thus shine on.


Agreed 100%.


Jeff Beck beat Hank to it with this one but obviously a few years ago while Hank was still performing with his solo band he could have also done a great version of this if he wanted to.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp1y1H-n_TI
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Re: Hendrix

Postby Paul Childs » 01 Dec 2013, 12:22

With Eric Clapton, we have always been dictated to that he is the greatest guitarist and we are not supposed to question it or have our own opinion of him.
A few years ago, I can't remember exactly what it was now but there was a show with Carl Perkins and other musicians including EC and also in the band was Albert Lee playing rythm guitar on an acoustic on every number exept Matchbox which he played lead with his Musicman instead of EC. Obviously that was because EC couldn't play in that style so Albert did it instead and that is probably the main reason why he was on that show just to play that number and not to play rythm which they could have got anyone to do.
Albert Lee, who is not as well known to the general public exept guitarists/musicians, is by far a better guitarist than Eric Clapton and more versatile.
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Re: Hendrix

Postby Fenderman » 01 Dec 2013, 13:25

I used to love Clapton's playing but anything after around 1973 just doesn't sound that great.
He did stretch himself when he did the Cream reunion concerts in 2005 and made the effort so he can still play well when he wants but he just bores me now, he's got lazy.
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Re: Hendrix

Postby Gary Allen » 01 Dec 2013, 13:38

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Re: Hendrix

Postby ash » 01 Dec 2013, 22:44

Clapton was great up to and including Blues Breakers but after that i find him really really boring. Peter Green's work 1966 to 1970 is far better.
Let's face it, Clapton's totally replaceable. Yardbirds replace him with Jeff Beck, Mayall replaces him with Peter Green.
While i disagree with some of the comments re Hendrix, i know i prefer Hank to Clapton and i would go so far as to say i think he's a better and more versatile guitarist.
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Re: Hendrix

Postby GoldenStreet » 02 Dec 2013, 11:23

Clearly, the ageing process affects different performers in different ways, but I thought it mildly ironic that the Clapton who produced the appalling schmaltz (purely my opinion!) of Wonderful Tonight was the same Clapton who departed the Yardbirds, stating that their move in a more commercial, pop-orientated direction made it impossible for him to remain with the band... or words to that effect!

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Re: Hendrix

Postby Paul Childs » 02 Dec 2013, 14:47

Hank could do it all without ever becoming a druggie!
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Re: Hendrix

Postby MikeAB » 02 Dec 2013, 17:41

It's all 'emperor's new clothes' for me - Clapton and Hendrix are revered and seen as 'cool' and ok to say you like, but their most popular numbers are the ones 'with tunes' - Layla, Wonderful Tonight, Tears in Heaven, Watchtower, Wind Cries Mary etc (is there even an etc?!!?). What a dead giveaway!

I've tried to be a fan but gave up, also bored stiff most of the time.

Everyone likes the Marvin sound and style but it's too uncool for some to admit.
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Re: Hendrix

Postby Paul Childs » 02 Dec 2013, 18:21

MikeAB wrote:Everyone likes the Marvin sound and style but it's too uncool for some to admit.


It was the Marvin sound that made a lot of the heavy rock guitarists from the mid 60s/early70s want to play the electric guitar in the first place. A lot of heavy rock fans and would be guitar heroes at that time thought The Shadows were uncool and would pretend they used to listen to the early blues players in their younger years which was far from the truth for most because when was all this blues stuff played on the radio or TV in Britain in the early 60s? I don't remember it.
Heavy rock fans (called progressive music at the time) thought that up to date pop music at that time was also uncool as well.
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