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Here is That Sound, does it still sound as you remember it ?

PostPosted: 27 May 2014, 12:12
by Derek Misselbrook
The Shadows Shazam! Live at the Colosseum, Johannesburg

Introduction by Norman Vaughan, March 1961, The original Shadows Hank Marvin, Bruce Welch, Jet Harris, Tony Meehan


Re: Here is That Sound, does it still sound as you remember

PostPosted: 27 May 2014, 13:32
by George Geddes
Ah, but is it That Sound? They weren't using Vox amps...

George

Re: Here is That Sound, does it still sound as you remember

PostPosted: 27 May 2014, 15:40
by JimN
George Geddes wrote:Ah, but is it That Sound? They weren't using Vox amps...

George


Additionally, That Sound is conditioned by the compressors and EQ filters of Abbey Road, meaning that a recording would have to duplicate or emulate those before coming close enough. Not for nothing was the ARiAB unit so named.

Re: Here is That Sound, does it still sound as you remember

PostPosted: 27 May 2014, 19:01
by Fenderman
and it was also dubbed from disc, the master tapes had been destroyed by fire (i guess they were stored in a vault in South Africa and not Abbey Road).

Re: Here is That Sound, does it still sound as you remember

PostPosted: 27 May 2014, 20:09
by Didier
Not at all, I saw the Shadows at the Paris Olympia in 1961 and the only recording I know which reminds me what I remember is the "Live at the ABC Kingston" (1962).
The "Live at the Colosseum in Johannesburg" EP was poorly recorded, and sounds like it has been heavily filtered and compressed for AM radio airing. I doubt that Abbey Road was involved for this South African EP.

Didier

Re: Here is That Sound, does it still sound as you remember

PostPosted: 28 May 2014, 07:29
by ecca
Derek re. your new avatar ......

Had you been to a funeral ?

Re: Here is That Sound, does it still sound as you remember

PostPosted: 28 May 2014, 09:08
by petercreasey
YES it is "that sound" or at least one of them. Whatever the amplifiers, compression, eq, knob twiddling or any other technical thing that may or may not have been applied this is unmistakably Hank Marvin, Bruce Welch, Jet Harris and Tony Meehan.
The sooner we cut through the equipment and focus on the talent the better!
This could have been a rant but I stopped myself ;)

Re: Here is That Sound, does it still sound as you remember

PostPosted: 28 May 2014, 09:42
by abstamaria
No, not the Sound, I'm afraid.

Andy

Re: Here is That Sound, does it still sound as you remember

PostPosted: 28 May 2014, 10:01
by Twang46
I'm with Peter here.

Yes it was "that sound" it was the live sound at that time in S Africa & I enjoyed it for what it is.
Loads of energy on stage here & what if the recording was not studio perfect, I wish I could have been there to see/hear it :D

Dick.

Re: Here is That Sound, does it still sound as you remember

PostPosted: 28 May 2014, 10:02
by petercreasey
Well if the Shads couldn't get 'that sound'in 1961 what chance have today's would be Hanks got? I appreciate that there are differences in echo machines amplifiers etc etc etc bùt under all that there is a basic sound that Hank has.
If you take any legendary vocalist be it Cliff, Frank Sinatra or whoever they have a distinctive sound whatever microphone etc they sing through. Hank too has his own "voice" in his guitar playing. To me this "voice" is "that sound", augment it with whatever you like it will still be the same "voice".