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Some Are Lonely(French version)/The Breeze And I

Posted:
17 Sep 2014, 13:14
by Dieseljoe
Hi-Does a mono master tape exsit of these two Shadows recordings and have they been released on compact disc?I have the stereo of The Breeze And I and the Mono of Some Are Lonely(French version) but unsure if it came from a tape or a record.Thanks Joe
Re: Some Are Lonely(French version)/The Breeze And I

Posted:
17 Sep 2014, 13:22
by JimN
The mono version of The BreezeAnd I was taken from the EMI master tape - for the first time on CD - on the recent six-CD box set of "The Early Years - expanded version".
Re: Some Are Lonely(French version)/The Breeze And I

Posted:
17 Sep 2014, 13:25
by dave robinson
JimN wrote:The mono version of The BreezeAnd I was taken from the EMI master tape - for the first time on CD - on the recent six-CD box set of "The Early Years - expanded version".
Is that the version Roberto will have given to me in that Malcolm Addey collection Jim ?
Re: Some Are Lonely(French version)/The Breeze And I

Posted:
17 Sep 2014, 14:36
by JimN
dave robinson wrote:JimN wrote:The mono version of The BreezeAnd I was taken from the EMI master tape - for the first time on CD - on the recent six-CD box set of "The Early Years - expanded version".
Is that the version Roberto will have given to me in that Malcolm Addey collection Jim ?
No.
All previous CD releases had been in stereo, and all releases in mono (in the UK, that essentially only means the original single) had been on vinyl. Roberto didn't have any privileged access to the tape archive.
The recent box-set contains the mono CD debuts of many Shadows single and EP tracks. This was the reason that I suggested them to Rob and the reason he put the request to Tim Chacksfield.
Re: Some Are Lonely(French version)/The Breeze And I

Posted:
17 Sep 2014, 16:02
by Dieseljoe
Thanks for the replies.I know the stereo version of Some Are Lonely(French version)on the master tape is lost/destroyed but is mono release of this song been dubbed or from a tape?Sorry I'm still unsure.Thanks Joe
Re: Some Are Lonely(French version)/The Breeze And I

Posted:
17 Sep 2014, 16:02
by Dieseljoe
Thanks for the replies.I know the stereo version of Some Are Lonely(French version)on the master tape is lost/destroyed but is mono release of this song been dubbed or from a tape?Sorry I'm still unsure.Thanks Joe
Re: Some Are Lonely(French version)/The Breeze And I

Posted:
17 Sep 2014, 20:34
by dave robinson
So Jim, are you saying that the copy of Breeze And I on the Malclolm Addey CDs is in stereo ? I'll check it out.

Re: Some Are Lonely(French version)/The Breeze And I

Posted:
17 Sep 2014, 21:24
by JimN
dave robinson wrote:So Jim, are you saying that the copy of Breeze And I on the Malclolm Addey CDs is in stereo ? I'll check it out.

Well, if it came from a commercially-produced CD, it's stereo. If it is in mono, it came from a vinyl record.
The only other feasible format would be a mono reduction of the stereo mix from a CD, but Roberto wasn't too bothered about the distinction between mono and stereo masters. Certainly not as bothered as I was...

Re: Some Are Lonely(French version)/The Breeze And I

Posted:
17 Sep 2014, 21:54
by dave robinson
JimN wrote:dave robinson wrote:So Jim, are you saying that the copy of Breeze And I on the Malclolm Addey CDs is in stereo ? I'll check it out.

Well, if it came from a commercially-produced CD, it's stereo. If it is in mono, it came from a vinyl record.
The only other feasible format would be a mono reduction of the stereo mix from a CD, but Roberto wasn't too bothered about the distinction between mono and stereo masters. Certainly not as bothered as I was...

Roberto gave me the entire Cliff & Shadows recordings that Malcolm Addey gave to him, from 1959 until they finished, about eighteen CDs in all - a full box anyway. There are out-takes and extra takes in there that I'd never heard, I figured that you would have the same collection.

Re: Some Are Lonely(French version)/The Breeze And I

Posted:
17 Sep 2014, 22:25
by JimN
Of course; I do have the same set.
But there is some mistake... those recordings didn't come from Malcolm Addey. I know - to a nicety - where they came from, and that was almost exclusively from commercial sources. There were a few from other sources.
Roberto's reason for compiling those CD-Rs was simply to place the recordings in date (rather than release) order. This was so that the evolution of the lead guitar sound could be easily followed. There was no other reason for the exercise.