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50th Tour Blu Ray

PostPosted: 13 Jun 2010, 20:50
by Twangaway
Anyone know if it's out yet ? and where is the cheapest place to buy please

David

Re: 50th Tour Blu Ray

PostPosted: 13 Jun 2010, 21:30
by Didier
Which 50th tour ? The Shadows' Final Tour, or Cliff & The Shads" Final Reunion Tour ?
The first one is now available on Blu Ray, the second one not yet.

Didier

Re: 50th Tour Blu Ray

PostPosted: 13 Jun 2010, 23:07
by Twangaway
Didier, there is only one 50th tour and that was the Cliff Richard and Shadows one and the Bluray due any time now.

The Final Tour is the Final Tour and not the 50th Tour :) and the Bluray came out a few weeks ago.

I have never seen anyone ever refer to the Final Tour as the 50th Tour which was dated 2004 which would have suggested the Shadows had been around since 1954 which of course is nonsense :)

Re: 50th Tour Blu Ray

PostPosted: 14 Jun 2010, 08:55
by Didier
Twangaway wrote:Didier, there is only one 50th tour and that was the Cliff Richard and Shadows one and the Bluray due any time now.

Ok, you are right about the 50th tour, but up to now there has been no release date announced for a Blu Ray version.
Which curently doesn't worry me, as I don't have yet a Blu Ray player and an HD TV !...
Of course I'm likely to change my mind as soon as I'll get equipped. May be there will be big discounts on HD TVs after the end of the world cup...

Didier

Re: 50th Tour Blu Ray

PostPosted: 14 Jun 2010, 10:39
by Bille
Hi Didier! If youre in for a full HD TV,i can recommend the new LG 50PK550.I just change mine to that one,and it's a terrific TV for the money.I bought mine for about 850 Euro.After reading all forums,and tests about it.Blu ray is fantastic to show music shows and movies.And the blu ray players are down to under 100 Euro now.

Cheers! Roland

Re: 50th Tour Blu Ray

PostPosted: 14 Jun 2010, 12:20
by captainhaddock
It might be different on mainland Europe, but I would hold off from buying a new TV until the sudden onset of innovations has settled down. I bought a new TV 18 months ago, on the understanding that it was state of the art. It was HD 1080p, digital, all singing -all dancing. Since then, the onset of 3D TV has meant that it is now old fashioned, it works fine but is no longer at the pinacle of technical innovation. I sincerely believe that the TV manufacturers are taking us for idiots and that we should all hold off from wasting money until the industry has settled down and decided what the future will be. I paid £499 for my new TV, today it is worth around £250, the electronics industry is taking us for idiots and we should refrain from playing their games.

Re: 50th Tour Blu Ray

PostPosted: 14 Jun 2010, 13:51
by Twangaway
Its like the last 5 years where HD ready sets are sold as HD sets, and of course are not full HD art all , only half HD..

Then we have sky who last year were forced by fellow Broadcasters and trading standards to withdraw there TV adverts saying SKY HD offers 4 x times better picture quality than SD, which of course is simply not true,

Now they are back again with World Cup advertising HD and so on and saying its five x the picture quality of SD and that's even worse and a lie and misrepresentation.

Lately we Have Panasonic selling BLURAY recorders, first model was £ 859. and their latest model is cheaper and a MKII. None of these machines are BLURAY recorders as claimed by Panasonic. They fail to comply with the BLURAY spec of 30+ MB/s data rate which is what Bluray discs are. The bloody machine can only handle 12 MB/s MAximum, SO THAT KNOCKS IT ON THE HEAD FOR ME, THE DECEIT AND CON, when you go out and buy a HD Camcorder that averages between 17 and 20Mb/s as the AVCHD spec and what is the point of making BLURAY discs coasters and suffer a drop in quality to 12 MB/s . The mind boggles. Also there is no COMPONENT HD or HDMI input to record the HD from your camcorder and you have to rely on a USB or memory card transfer which then drops it to 12 MB/s.


I reported this to QVC who were pushing them 2 weeks ago and asked for an explanation and justification of their support of Panasonic, and had no reply, so am going to trading standards as next step. It's simply not on. When DVD recorders first came out they complied to the DVD spec other than the DVD+ R Philips spin off that didn't. So why are we being short changed on Bluray ?.


Perhaps Hollywood are leaning on Panasonic big time :)

Re: 50th Tour Blu Ray

PostPosted: 14 Jun 2010, 16:18
by captainhaddock
When I bought my TV, I understood that as it was Fully HD 1080p ready and also was an integrated Freeview digital model.
I fully believed that I would be able to receive Freeview HD channels when they became available in my area. Can I receive BBC HD ?, NO I can't, I have been informed that I will require another Set-Top box. But one of the reasons that I bought the all singing-all dancing TV was that I could get rid of my set-top box. I do not want a pile of ugly boxes with the miles of Spaghetti wiring behind. Anyway, I would much rather that BBC and ITV would actually make some decent programmes before
they bothered with novelty improvements to picture quality. Finally, for those who have HD TV, through Satellite, how long is it before you no longer notice the improved picture quality?

Re: 50th Tour Blu Ray

PostPosted: 14 Jun 2010, 17:58
by hbmartin
You cannot fail to notice the improved picture quality. HD is far superior to standard TV.

Re: 50th Tour Blu Ray

PostPosted: 14 Jun 2010, 18:05
by Twangaway
What happens overtime as you get accustomed to HD, the Broadcasters will start dropping the bit rate, so you will eventually get poorer picture quality like they did with SD on Satellite. Sky and US channels are renown for it, they think it's OK to do that and try to squeeze more channels.

When you start to notice the pixel blocking and blocky fades or dissolves like you see in QVC and adverts then you know the rot has started.

HD is a novelty when you don't have it, once you have it you take it for granted like we did colour TV and also stereo records, and recently 5.1, but that is progress.