Effects on Hank's first solo album

[Kabana]

Just checked out the Burns Buzzaround pedal on Youtube.

Yes, that could be it.
It would be great if someone could verify that.

Regards
Dave

[Kabana]

I think it might be the Burns Buzzaround pedal that he was using.

I've just found a clip on Youtube and it does appear to have a similar sound.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZViQ2H-5s4

Can anyone verify?

Regards
Dave

[Moderne]

I know what you mean and have asked this question before a long time ago. From the first few notes of Aquarius, the Burns Marvin sounds 'thicker' and 'denser' than on any previous Shadows recording. Maybe it's the Jennings J40 amp as Phil Kelly suggested. The closest I can get to the sound is on my Burns Split Sonic with the selecter lodged between the Treble and Jazz positions. This guitar doesn't sound as good with the DeArmond 610 as the Marvin does, for some reason. I think Hank's Burns Marvin sounds amazing on all his recordings in the '69-'70 period - Goodnight Dick and Sunday for Seven Days being two of my favourites. It's a pity that Hank himself has seemed dismissive of this period of his career in interviews.

[JimN]

From the first few notes of Aquarius, the Burns Marvin sounds 'thicker' and 'denser' than on any previous Shadows recording.

That's the sound of EMI's Telefunken channel pre-amps and Fairchild compressors.

[Dance with Shadows]

Very Interesting, one and all.

As I understand things the Burns Fuzz was used on The Warlord. I don't hear that sound on Marvin's first solo LP.

Phil's information is especially interesting, as I did not know that two different amps were used on that recording. In order to check that I understand you correctly, am I right in suggesting that High Sierra is a VOX amplifier and the J40 is say used on Georgia on My Mind. I realise that they're played, of course, on different parts of the fretbboard, which will impact on the sound, but I THINK I can detect a difference in the tone. Is that the difference you were referring to?

Jim,

You raise the point

That's the sound of EMI's Telefunken channel pre-amps and Fairchild compressors.

When was that equipment first used in recording The Shadows/Marvin?

regards Michael

[Uncle Fiesta]

Parts of Aquarius were definitely double-tracked. Perhaps other tracks on the album were recorded the same way.

[JimN]

You raise the point

That's the sound of EMI's Telefunken channel pre-amps and Fairchild compressors.

When was that equipment first used in recording The Shadows/Marvin?

regards Michael

Those items had been in use at EMI since before The Shadows started to make records. The effect of the Telefunken pre-amps is marked in early Shadows records, the compressoors less so. Limiting was more of a recording fashion by the late 1960s, but its effect can be heard on some early tracks, eg, Atlantis (though not to the same degree).

[StuartD]

He was certainly using the Jennings J40 Amp at that time but they were all transistor.

He used a Jennings Rotary speaker effect on all those tracks that were discussed. He used it live on Slaughter and later on Sacha. I've no idea what distortion effect he used in the studio. The Jennings Rotary device had two speeds. Love and Occasional Rain and the middle bit in Slaughter show them up. Good effect in Windmills of your Mind and Midnight Cowboy

Regards

Stuart

[phil kelly]

Hi,
just picking up on what Stuart said with regards to Hanks use of the rotary cabinet, when i bought the Jennings J40 it came with the "Jennings Gyrosonic twin ten " which was a rotary cabinet with two ten inch speakers and it had two motor speeds, it gave very similar sounds as heard on the tracks mentioned but i was led to believe Hank only used this live, i think there is an album cover ( Shads in japan maybe ? ) that shows it on the front cover, whilst in abbey road he reputedly used the studios leslie cabinet, i could be wrong though,
Phil.

[ErikMAMS]

Jennings RLS.5, RT.10 and PO.1 Rotary & Pulsation Speakers 1968-69:
http://www.voxshowroom.com/catalogs/scene5.html
and from a 1972 brochure:
http://www.voxshowroom.com/catalogs/jei72amps4.html

Erik