Cliff & The Shadows - 1962 Royal Variety Show

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Re: Cliff & The Shadows - 1962 Royal Variety Show

Postby cockroach » 29 May 2011, 11:58

I sure I could see lighter strings with a plain third, and there's also a volume pedal in use, but the echo/repeat is barely audible, as you say Jim.

The Burns certainly gives him a different sound quite unlike a Strat, IMHO...there was some odd timing he was adopting there too, sort of delayed melody lines playing behind the beat, most unlike the recording.
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Re: Cliff & The Shadows - 1962 Royal Variety Show

Postby JimN » 29 May 2011, 13:13

cockroach wrote:I sure I could see lighter strings with a plain third, and there's also a volume pedal in use, but the echo/repeat is barely audible, as you say Jim.


This must have been in either late 1969 or more likely, in the first half of 1970.

By then, as Hank announced in music press Q&A columns, he had moved away from using the Gibson Sonomatic gauge (13-56 with wound third) to Sonomatic Light Gauge (11-52, with a wound third) on one of his Burns Marvins and Fender R'n'R (approx 10-42 with a plain third) on the other one.

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Re: Cliff & The Shadows - 1962 Royal Variety Show

Postby cockroach » 30 May 2011, 11:22

Not that I care greatly, but it did cross my mind that it doesn't really sound like the Shadows without echo on the guitar, does it?

In fact, it sounds pretty dead and dull! Even some more reverb would have helped perhaps, but I expect Hank was trying something different at that time, and perhaps wanting to escape the restrictions of the typical Shads guitar sound, which he had been using for 8-10 years by that time..

He certainly has a different sound miles from a Strat and echo these days...Django rules OK?!
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Re: Cliff & The Shadows - 1962 Royal Variety Show

Postby Paul Childs » 30 May 2011, 12:06

If I remember as I no longer have the album and haven't heard it for quite a while, this period (69-70) was about the same time as the album 'Live in Japan' and on there it sounds like there is no echo but there is something else that sounds like a rotary speaker, probably a Leslie?
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