A PIECE OF KIT.

[Geoff Alderton LH]

Hi all.
Question, Is there a piece of kit or software that I can enter millisecond info, ie 100ms 200ms 300ms etc,etc, and get the piece of kit to play it back as a click sound, or any sound?
Regards Geoff.

[dave robinson]

A midi keyboard perhaps?

[JimN]

Hi all.
Question, Is there a piece of kit or software that I can enter millisecond info, ie 100ms 200ms 300ms etc,etc, and get the piece of kit to play it back as a click sound, or any sound?
Regards Geoff.

Hi, Geoff,

Any decent wave editor (even a free one like Audacity) will let you do that, with a lot of accuracy.

Not sure, mind, what you mean by "play it back as a click sound".

JN

[RayL]

Aren't we talking here about an electronic metronome?

These are usually expressed as 'beats per minute'. i minute is 60,000 milliseconds. 100 beats per minute is therefore a click every 600 milliseconds, 200 bpm is one click every 300 milliseconds, and so on.

Are you trying to time echo repeats? Since musical metronomes don't usually go much past 250bpm (only needed for Cossack dancing and punk rock) you would need to turn up the echo regeneration control and set multiple repeats to the clicks of the metronome.

Ray

[Geoff Alderton LH]

Hi all and thank you for your reply's.
Dave. I do have a midi keyboard, but its been under the bed for the past eight years, cant find the mannual or the power lead so I cant try it out. It's a RolandJW50 workstation.

Jim. I have downloaded the Audacity wave editor and just got lost with the number of things on there. There must be an answer in there somewere but I just cant find it

Ray. I had a look at the electronic metronome's and could'nt find one that you could enter different ms times and get it to repeat.
Again thank you for the sugestions but I think I might have asked the wrong question. I will try to explain what I am looking for.

I have an ESE Ecohomatic 6 tape echo. On the Echotappers site there is a list of Head timings for all the old vitage tape echo's. I take it these timings are taken with the tape running at its slowest speed eg; Meazzi Ecohmatic, 120ms, 200ms, 280ms, 360ms, 440ms, 520ms, for the six replay heads.
Meazzi Factotum; 65ms, 127ms, 188ms, 254ms, 325ms, 398ms. I goes on to list all the popular brands of vintage echoes and their head timings in millisecs.
It does not list the ESE echoes, I suppose because they are not considered vintage at this stage. Can anyone tell me what the ESE 4 OR 6 head timings are in millisecond's with the tape at its slowest speed?

Regards Geoff.

[dave robinson]

Geoff wrote;
Can anyone tell me what the ESE 4 OR 6 head timings are in millisecond's with the tape at its slowest speed?

No not exactly, every one of those machines that I have tried give slightly different results.

[JimN]

I have an ESE Ecohomatic 6 tape echo. On the Echotappers site there is a list of Head timings for all the old vitage tape echo's. I take it these timings are taken with the tape running at its slowest speed eg; Meazzi Ecohmatic, 120ms, 200ms, 280ms, 360ms, 440ms, 520ms, for the six replay heads.
Meazzi Factotum; 65ms, 127ms, 188ms, 254ms, 325ms, 398ms. I goes on to list all the popular brands of vintage echoes and their head timings in millisecs.
It does not list the ESE echoes, I suppose because they are not considered vintage at this stage. Can anyone tell me what the ESE 4 OR 6 head timings are in millisecond's with the tape at its slowest speed?
Regards Geoff.

Sorry, Geoff, I don't have the ESE. But if you record a digital clip of a single damped note, letting the echoes fade away completely before ending the recording, you will be able to measure the time distance (visually) in Audacity by opening the clip in that program and highlighting the waveform between the peak of the initial note and each subsequent peak. The read-out will give the delay time exactly, in hundredths of a millisecond if you need that level of exactness.

HTH,

JN

[RayL]

Ray. I had a look at the electronic metronome's and could'nt find one that you could enter different ms times and get it to repeat.
Regards Geoff.

Geoff

If you want to use the metronome method, I was suggesting that there is a simple conversion between bpm (which the metronome will have on its display) and milliseconds. You could make a little conversion table
100 bpm = 600 ms
200 bpm = 300 ms
300 bpm = 200 ms
400 bpm = 150 ms
500 bpm = 120 ms
etc, etc
Just divide the bpm into 60,000 to get the milliseconds.

Any metronome will of course repeat - what I was suggesting is that you select each head of the echo machine in turn and get that particular echo to repeat using the regeneration control. You can then 'tune' the metronome to match the timing of the echos. If the metronome won't go fast enough allow, say, three echos per click of the metronome. Multiply the bpm reading by 3 and divide it into 60,000 to get the ms.

Ray

[Geoff Alderton LH]

Hi all.
Well just to say that yes there is a piece of kit to give me the head timings for my ESE 6 echo. Also a big thank you to Mr Leary, who luckily for me, has the piece of kit, and for spending the time to work out the head timings for my ESE echo.
Thank you Brian.
Regards Geoff.

[rockinscott]

Hi Geoff

Would you mind letting me know what the timings are out of curiosity as I have the IVR.

Thanks

Scott