Haynes Manual

[Bluesnote]

Even just the graphite off a pencill powdered up and rubbed into the grooves works just fine. Tip I got off a luthiers site.
If a string keeps slipping its not the type or gauge of the string, it must be either the trem or the machinehead causing the problem.
I suppose there is a possibility of if you have played the wound third all your days then shift to an unwound third, you could possibly pull or push it out of tune slightly by too much pressure on it.

[Shad1]

Thanks everyone for the hints and tips but I have to say I've tried them all - but to no avail. It occurs to me that if it is such a long -lived common problem there has to be a fundamental reason for it. While there will be many players on here that simply don't have the problem there clearly are many that do and it just seems more than suspicious to me that if a string is going to 'go' it is almost invariably the G string. Is it the guitar/nut/tuner/tremolo block design? A mystical combination? Perhaps the luthier members on here can design and build a guitar from scratch using innovative new science/technology/materials that would overcome the problem.
For the record, I've had the guitar professionally set-up on several occasions now (and regularly maintain it myself). For a while all is well - then it starts.......then the tears come......(there's a song there somewhere).

Best wishes all

Malc.

[JimN]

Thanks everyone for the hints and tips but I have to say I've tried them all - but to no avail. It occurs to me that if it is such a long -lived common problem there has to be a fundamental reason for it. While there will be many players on here that simply don't have the problem there clearly are many that do and it just seems more than suspicious to me that if a string is going to 'go' it is almost invariably the G string. Is it the guitar/nut/tuner/tremolo block design? A mystical combination?

It's the string, Malc. And the laws of physics.

I have found it possible to avoid the problem with a plain third - but only by using locking tuners (eg, Sperzels). It's much easier to use a wrapped third...

JN

[chas]

It's a great book with loads of useful info. I have four books in that series. I am also about to receive, for my birthday, another interesting new book called 'Squier Electrics' by Tony Bacon, the famous writer (in our circles) on all stuff guitar-related.

Tony.

Is this book on Squier electrics cheaper with thinner pages?
(except for maybe a section dealing with JV's....?)

Chas.

[Shad1]

Hi Jim, it's precisely because I know it's all to do with the laws of Physics that I don't understand why the problem hasn't been tackled once and for all by engineers who know about them. I do know about the laws of Physics but I'm not an engineer!
Thinking about it, I'm surprised string manufacturers haven't cottoned on to the problem too but then maybe they reckon the problem is with the tremolo block manufacturers who, in turn, reckon it's the tuner designers who in turn.....blah blah blah.
The problem (for me) is when the string is bent i.e. not the usual thermal reaction of metals - it doesn't usually return to it's previous in-tune state. Fine. But all the other strings do! So where is the seat of the problem? As I said in my earlier post, I've changed everything - and I mean everything but the problem persists.
For many guitarists there is clearly no such problem and I envy them greatly. Maybe they don't bend the G much or often, maybe they have a different model of Strat that is more accommodating (how?) or maybe they don't use a Strat at all (reference Chet Atkins by yourself Jim). My haggard point is simply that there must be a fundamental reason why the G is so problematical.
If I won the lottery I would offer a substantial prize for the engineer that nails the problem - you read it here.
Isn't music interesting?

I greatly appreciate yours and others input Jim - it's becoming a bit of an obsession.

Regards

Malc.

[RUSSET]

It's a great book with loads of useful info. I have four books in that series. I am also about to receive, for my birthday, another interesting new book called 'Squier Electrics' by Tony Bacon, the famous writer (in our circles) on all stuff guitar-related.

Tony.

Is this book on Squier electrics cheaper with thinner pages?
(except for maybe a section dealing with JV's....?)

Chas.

Hi Chas, ha, ha ...... very good ! No, it's a very good & comprehensive book. It's 160 pages & about 1.25 x bigger in dimensions than the Haynes manuals. Tony Bacon goes into the entire history of how Squier was born & the situation at Fender at the time. There is a chronology of the models & a dating chart together with the various serial nos. And, of course there are dozens of beautiful full colour photos of the various models throughout Squier's history right up to the present time. If you are at all interested in Squier guitars, this is really good value, & it only costs about £14.

Tony.

[s4wgb]

Second edition has come today.
Has anyone else got theres?
Thanks