Thanks for Nothing, EMI

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Re: Thanks for Nothing, EMI

Postby roninnes » 30 Jul 2012, 13:10

I have a vinyl of The Shadows live in Japan, Sankei Hall Oct 1969. Done by EMI Catalogue number C052-05081
Set list
Shazam
Dance On
Nivram
Apache
Exodus
Foot Tapper
Little Bitty Tear
Putting on the Style
Slaughter on 10th Ave
Don't Make my Baby Bkue
The Rise and Fall of Flingel Bunt
Somewhere
Little 'B'
F.B.I.

This was with Alan Hawkshaw.

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Re: Thanks for Nothing, EMI

Postby iefje » 30 Jul 2012, 22:16

Fenderman wrote:I dont think there's any left in the EMI archive to release (apart from out takes and false starts but i can't see the band members wanting that released). All that's left now is the BBC and perhaps live recordings, although someone mentioned that EMI recorded The Shadows live in Japan in 1967, i can't find any reference to it, all i know they recorded in Japan was the 4 track EP.
If it exists, it would be nice to hear.


The 4 track EP you refer to are the following tracks: "Omoide No Nagisa (Beach Of Memories)", "Kimi To Itsumademo (Till Eternity With You)", "Londonderry Air", "Gin-Iro No Michi (Silver Colour Road)". These four tracks were actually recorded at Abbey Road Studios during July of 1967, when The Shadows recorded tracks for the "From Hank, Bruce, Brian And John" album, eight of which first appeared on the Japanese album "The Shadows In Japan", along with the aforementioned four tracks. The first, second and fourth of these were also issued on the Japanese EP "The Wild Roses". The third ("Londonderry Air") was issued on another Japanese EP "Stardust". The four tracks have been issued together on an EP, though it was a 12" EP and released in The Netherlands in 1980/1981.
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Re: Thanks for Nothing, EMI

Postby donna plasky » 02 Aug 2012, 02:21

If anyone might be interested, I was able to buy a copy of the CD "From Hank Bruce Brian and John" with bonus tracks that included the Japanese titles you mentioned. I bought mine through amazon.co -- I bought it from either the French or German amazon site, I forget which -- but below is a listing of it on the German amazon site. It was very expensive, but I really wanted those bonus tracks so I bought it. On the album cover, you will notice some wording underneath the postage stamps with the Shadows' photos. It seems to me that the version of "From H.B.B.J." that has the bonus tracks has these words on the front. If you see a plain album cover with no wording underneath the stamps, it does not have the extra tracks.

http://www.amazon.de/From-Hank-Bruce-Brian-John/dp/tracks/B00005Q484/ref=dp_tracks_all_1#disc_1

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1. Snap, Crackle And How's Your Dad
2. Evening Glow
3. A Thing Of Beauty
4. Naughty Nippon Nights
5. The Wild Roses
6. San Francisco
7. The Letter
8. The Tokaido Line
9. Holy Cow
10. Alentejo
11. Last Train To Clarksville
12. Let Me Take You There
13. The Day I Met Marie
14. A Better Man Than I
15. Bonustracks:Omoide No Nagisa - Shadows
16. Kimi To Itsumademo - Shadows
17. Gin Iro No Michi - Shadows
18. Londonderry Air
19. Dear Old Mrs Bell - Shadows
20. Trying To Forget The One You Love
21. I Can't Forget
22. Running Out Of The World
23. Leave My Woman Alone - Shadows
24. Slaughter On 10th Avenue
25. Chitty Chitty Bang Bang (Unreleased) - Shadows
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Re: Thanks for Nothing, EMI

Postby Iain Purdon » 04 Aug 2012, 11:18

I believe the original Japanese release of From HBBJ featured those Japanese tracks instead of some that were on the UK version, but I've forgotten which were the substitutes.

Anyway, with this version you've got the lot and more!

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Re: Thanks for Nothing, EMI

Postby Fenderman » 04 Aug 2012, 11:27

I notice one of the bonus tracks is 'I can't forget' a track that i still find very moving. I believe if this was released as a single at the time (instead of 'Tomorrow's Cancelled') it may have been a hit but for some reason i think it was only released abroad.
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Re: Thanks for Nothing, EMI

Postby iefje » 04 Aug 2012, 13:31

Iain_P wrote:I believe the original Japanese release of From HBBJ featured those Japanese tracks instead of some that were on the UK version, but I've forgotten which were the substitutes.

Anyway, with this version you've got the lot and more!

Iain


The tracks which feature on both albums are "Evening Glow", "A Thing Of Beauty", "Naughty Nippon Nights", "The Wild Roses", "The Tokaido Line", "Holy Cow", "Alentejo" and "Let Me Take You There". The Japanese "The Shadows In Japan" album features the aforementioned four 'Japanese' tracks, while the "From Hank, Bruce, Brian And John" album features "Snap, Crackle And How's Your Dad", "San Francisco", "The Letter", "Last Train To Clarksville", "The Day I Met Marie" and "A Better Man Than I".
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Re: Thanks for Nothing, EMI

Postby JimN » 04 Aug 2012, 13:45

Fenderman wrote:I notice one of the bonus tracks is 'I can't forget' a track that i still find very moving. I believe if this was released as a single at the time (instead of 'Tomorrow's Cancelled') it may have been a hit but for some reason i think it was only released abroad.


By the summer of 1967, it wouldn't have mattered what material The Shadows released as a single, it would not have been any more than the minor hit that Tomorrow's Cancelled achieved. I bought the single at the time and clearly recall being underwhelmed by the A-side, though I was very pleased to (at last) have a recording of Somewhere (the B-side) with Hank at his best on Burns guitar and DeArmond tone/volume pedal. I bought a pedal of my own a few weeks later and still have it. Bruce was interviewed in a weekly music paper (probably Melody Maker) at the time, and he said that Somewhere was stopping the show on live dates and they had wanted to get it out on record. Why didn't they put it on "Jigsaw" (in stereo), then? ;)

The Shadows' Japanese-released album of late 1967 had the title "Pops In Japan" and contained this track listing:

1. Omoide No Nagisa
2. Kimi To Itsumademo
3. Londonderry Air
4. The Tokaido Line
5. Alentejo
6. Evening Glow

1. The Wild Roses
2. Gin Iro No Michi
3. Naughty Nippon Nights
4. A Thing Of Beauty
5. Let Me Take You There
6. Holy Cow

The UK LP "From Hank, Bruce, Brian & John" had the listing:

1. Snap, Crackle And How's Your Dad?
2. Evening Glow
3. A Thing Of Beauty
4. Naughty Nippon Nights
5. The Wild Roses
6. San Francisco (Be Sure To Wear Some Flowers In Your Hair) (v)
7. The Letter (v)

1. The Tokaido Line
2. Holy Cow
3. Alentejo
4. Last Train To Clarksville
5. Let Me Take You There (v)
6. The Day I Met Marie (v)
7. A Better Man Than I (v)

As we can see by that comparison, the inclusion of the four "Japanese rarity" tracks was done at the expense of all the vocals except Let Me Take You There, plus Last Train To Clarksville and Snap, Crackle And How's Your Dad?. Six out, four in, with the length reduced from fourteen tracks to twelve.

The "Pops In Japan" LP was re-released on CD by Toshiba in Japan, coupled with the "Live In Japan" LP from 1969 on the same disc. The track listing was thus:

LIVE 1969: Shazam! / Dance On! / Nivram / Apache / Exodus / Foot Tapper / Little Bitty Tear / Putting On The Style / Slaughter On 10th Avenue / Don't Make My Baby Blue / The Rise And Fall Of Flingel Bunt / Somewhere / Little 'B' / FBI.
1967: Omoide No Nagisa / Kimi To Itsumademo / Londonderry Air / The Tokaido Line / Alentejo / Evening Glow / The Wild Roses / Gin Iro No Michi / Naughty Nippon Nights / A Thing Of Beauty / Let Me Take You There / Holy Cow.

Although was before the age of the internet, Ian Kershaw of SCOFA made copies available and I managed to get one. Later still Magic Records in France released the disc referred to above, though it is now only available secondhand at prices which reflect its rarity and the demand.
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Re: Thanks for Nothing, EMI

Postby iefje » 07 Aug 2012, 14:07

JimN wrote:The Shadows' Japanese-released album of late 1967 had the title "Pops In Japan"


That's not entirely correct. The original title of the album in November, 1967, was "The Shadows In Japan". When it was coupled with "'Live' In Japan" for release on CD in early 1991, it was retitled to "Pops In Japan".
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