Burns Era and Lineup Question

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Re: Burns Era and Lineup Question

Postby donna plasky » 30 Sep 2012, 01:59

[quote="JimN] Not sure what might be meant by "a Stratocaster version of Move It".

The record of Move It does not feature any of The Shadows, and certainly doesn't feature a Fender guitar of any description.

JN[/quote]

Hi, Jim. You're right, of course. I forgot about that. The spirit of what I meant was that the TV show I was looking at was one where the Shadows were playing Burns guitars. I meant that the average person -- a non-musician, somebody like me -- would not have noticed the difference if they were miming to a recording of Strats, while standing there holding Burns Marvins. Maybe Wonderful Land would have been a better example than Move It, or maybe not. I am only starting to be able to hear the difference in tone between Fenders and Burns.

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Donna
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Re: Burns Era and Lineup Question

Postby donna plasky » 01 Oct 2012, 01:20

I hope no one is offended by this message because it is straying a bit off-topic, but I thought maybe you might get a little laugh out of what you were missing by not living in ultra-cool (not!!!!) Philadelphia in the 1960's. Here is a clip of the Rolling Stones from an appearance on The Mike Douglas Show which was broadcast in the US (live, I think) daily out of a Philadelphia TV studio for a couple of decades. This is probably an example of what you/we were saying about sound on TV shows not being very good. I was kind of waiting for the host to say, "So which one of you is Mick?" :D

Kind regards,
Donna

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Re: Burns Era and Lineup Question

Postby GoldenStreet » 01 Oct 2012, 13:06

JimN wrote:The record of Move It does not feature any of The Shadows, and certainly doesn't feature a Fender guitar of any description.

JN


A quote from the late Ian Samwell re. lead guitarist, Ernie Shear:-

Says Ian Samwell ; quote - On ' Move It ' Ernie Shear played a blond Hofner guitar with a DeArmond pick-up near the bridge. Though it has been suggested that he used a Fender amp , I doubt that he did ; it seems too early . The British government was managing a still much deprived post-war economy, and import restrictions were still firmly in place. Shear would have had to travel to the United States or import it himself. It's more likely that he would have used a Selmer or some such.

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Re: Burns Era and Lineup Question

Postby JimN » 01 Oct 2012, 14:56

GoldenStreet wrote:A quote from the late Ian Samwell re. lead guitarist, Ernie Shear:-

Says Ian Samwell ; quote - On ' Move It ' Ernie Shear played a blond Hofner guitar with a DeArmond pick-up near the bridge. Though it has been suggested that he used a Fender amp , I doubt that he did ; it seems too early . The British government was managing a still much deprived post-war economy, and import restrictions were still firmly in place. Shear would have had to travel to the United States or import it himself. It's more likely that he would have used a Selmer or some such.

Bill


The "suggestion" came from Ernie himself, via me, in an interview for article published in the UK magazine "Guitarist" (c.1995). Ernie was quite sure that he used a Fender Deluxe amplifier for record dates in 1958/1959. This would have been the tweed TV front version of the Deluxe, and not the now more familiar front-loaded version with or without reverb.

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