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Re: Hendrix

Postby humdrum » 29 Nov 2013, 21:42

I agree the 3 experience studio albums were brilliant but that was in the studio were anythings possible re-takes,overdubs etc. But live i thought he was terrible. if he hit a bum note you would accept it as part of the solo combined with all the overdrive fuzz etc that he hid behind. When Hank plays there is nowhere to hide cause the tunes are known note for note by all his followers. Plus with overdrive anyone can sound good (even me). I banged out 3 chords to my 14 year old nephew on overdrive.......He now thinks i'm a genius......NUFF SAID.
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Re: Hendrix

Postby ash » 30 Nov 2013, 00:27

Fenderman wrote:I wouldn't say the Shads are in danger of being 'forgotten' about (at least not yet!).

Indeed forgotten about is probably the wrong term but i have to say, most people of my age group that i know (who like music) think they're a joke and the only reason the younger ones know them is coz i've played them the good stuff and raved about them. In particular the Cliff connection has done them no favours although obviously without him there'd be no Shadows !
humdrum wrote:I agree the 3 experience studio albums were brilliant but that was in the studio were anythings possible re-takes,overdubs etc. But live i thought he was terrible. if he hit a bum note you would accept it as part of the solo combined with all the overdrive fuzz etc that he hid behind. When Hank plays there is nowhere to hide cause the tunes are known note for note by all his followers. Plus with overdrive anyone can sound good (even me). I banged out 3 chords to my 14 year old nephew on overdrive.......He now thinks i'm a genius......NUFF SAID.

A look at the Experience recording sessions show that the first 2 albums were recorded in very few sessions. AYE and the a and b sides for 3 singles in around 10 sessions. Axis was recorded in around 10 dates. Hardly excessive by the standards of the day. Chas Chandler reined Jimi in on the first album due to lack of funds.
I'm jealous you saw him live. I disagree that he hid behind overdrive/fuzz.
Where would Hank be without an echo box and whammy bar ? Not half as interesting.
Is it as much of an inaccurate generalisation to suggest Hank played the same tunes the same way night after night for decades ? Sounds awfully boring to me. Certainly Jimi played some bad notes and some bad concerts but he was usually not playing exactly the same solos and fills every night and was frequently going for it. Some tracks like Red House are radically different from performance to performance, always developing moving on covering a wide range of styles not just the psychedelic blues "thing" more like the way Coltrane developed My Favourite Things or Impressions.
As for your last sentence -
a/ depends what 3 chords you played
b/ i'm sure he probably described your performance as "epic"
c/ Interviewer - You've been called a genius many times..
Orson Welles - Oh it's one of those words. i suppose there's only been two or three geniuses this (20th) century, we all know who they are...Picasso, Einstein and somebody in China we've never heard about".
Interviewer - So you don't accept the..
OW - "oh i accept anything i get but i really wouldn't want try to edge my way into an elevator that was for geniuses only"

enjoy it while you can Humdrum. Once your nephew learns that 4th chord it's back to frozen pea commercials for you !
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Re: Hendrix

Postby humdrum » 30 Nov 2013, 01:40

Ha Ha he already knows that fourth chord he's pretty clever.......just to round off you say where would Mr Marvin be without his echo units & tremolo unit? I think he's proved many times over the years he manages pretty well without them. listen to his latest album of Django's songs........not a Fender or tremolo arm in sight just highly skilful playing.
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Re: Hendrix

Postby ecca » 30 Nov 2013, 08:10

Well after all this spiel ,Hendrix still leaves me cold, I've no regrets about flogging the one and only CD I bought to see if I'd missed anything all those years ago.

Hank no good without a trem or echo ?

Listen to Windmills of your Mind.



You would never dream it was Hank if you hadn't read it, amazing.
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Re: Hendrix

Postby roger bayliss » 30 Nov 2013, 18:42

To me Hendrix was the ultimate Rock showman on stage who was flamboyant and creative with his sounds both on stage and in the studio. He was way ahead of his time, there was simply nothing like it before he came along and took the electric guitar to a whole new level. Eddie Kramer testified to his creativity in the studio amongst others. Like all artists he had a personal stamp and trademark sound that made him what he was. He confided in Linda McCartney that he tired of doing the shows because the fans expected him to play that way and so got stuck in a musical rut as a result.

He was essentially a souped up blues guitarist and many leading guitarists of the day like Clapton, Beck, Page, Townshend and others acknowledged he was beyond them and as Clapton put it some of the stuff he did was off limits to him. Beck stated he knew he had to have a re think about how he played or was going to get left behind in Jimi's wake.

You either like him or not but some of his tunes were really great like say 'Little Wing'

Like it or not people still talk about him today and a legend of the guitar he certainly is and all this from a short life of 27yrs and 4 albums.

Not everyone's cup of tea but there is much to admire I think.
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Re: Hendrix

Postby Gary Allen » 30 Nov 2013, 19:15

Can we move on and start a Clapton vs Marvin debate ?
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Re: Hendrix

Postby ecca » 30 Nov 2013, 19:51

There's another one.
What's Clapton played any good in the last few decades ?
And what's he ever played any good on a strat ?
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Re: Hendrix

Postby humdrum » 30 Nov 2013, 19:55

Ready when you are Gary..Ha Ha.
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Re: Hendrix

Postby roger bayliss » 30 Nov 2013, 21:05

I find Clapton to be quite bland these days certainly post 70s onwards. His guitar sound is not great and the last thing he did and I liked was his live unplugged set in the 90s. Jimmy Page no longer shines like he did either if you ask me but in 60s and 70s both were great cutting edge guitarists who shone out. Jeff Beck goes on from strength to strength to this day and he has been the one to innovate and thus shine on.
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Re: Hendrix

Postby JimN » 30 Nov 2013, 23:08

roger bayliss wrote:I find Clapton to be quite bland these days certainly post 70s onwards. His guitar sound is not great and the last thing he did and I liked was his live unplugged set in the 90s. Jimmy Page no longer shines like he did either if you ask me but in 60s and 70s both were great cutting edge guitarists who shone out. Jeff Beck goes on from strength to strength to this day and he has been the one to innovate and thus shine on.


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