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Is this how we remember the F-red colour?

Postby Derek Misselbrook » 24 Feb 2014, 15:18

This is how I remember the early strats used by The Shadows not the Fiesta Red colour we see these days !! This guitar below is a current Fender Strat in Coral Pink, what do you think :D
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Re: Is this how we remember the F-red colour?

Postby Gary Allen » 24 Feb 2014, 15:40

Hi Derek, I saw these on coda a while back, I like the colour and the spec, but...everything was black and white in the early days, nowadays its 50 shades of grey. :D regards Gary
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Re: Is this how we remember the F-red colour?

Postby JimN » 24 Feb 2014, 16:13

Hi, Derek.

I'm sure that some of the red Strats, Jazzmasters, Jaguars and basses sold by Selmer and Jennings were Coral Pink. Neither company ever specified the finish more precisely than just "red".
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Re: Is this how we remember the F-red colour?

Postby ecca » 24 Feb 2014, 17:03

Yep, that's the colour burned into my brain.
Not red, pink.
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Re: Is this how we remember the F-red colour?

Postby GoldenStreet » 25 Feb 2014, 12:52

JimN wrote:I'm sure that some of the red Strats, Jazzmasters, Jaguars and basses sold by Selmer and Jennings were Coral Pink. Neither company ever specified the finish more precisely than just "red".


Yes, I wonder what shade of 'red', as per the Selmer description, it actually was back in the monochrome days of 1963?

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Re: Is this how we remember the F-red colour?

Postby dave robinson » 25 Feb 2014, 18:21

We have here in Sheffield an original 1959 red Strat in original condition so for me there's no doubt - the serial number is close to Hank's.
The same guitar is identical in colour to my thirty year old Vintage re-issue, same as the one played by Colin Pryce-Jones of The Rapiers. Whether or not it is identical to the one in this picture is debatable, it depends on what colour lighting is hitting it at any given time, certain lighting can make this red look pink or dark red, which leads me to believe Fender USA never did forget the colour, though the Japs & Mexicans may have. :idea:
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Re: Is this how we remember the F-red colour?

Postby Didier » 25 Feb 2014, 19:39

I thought that it was well established that Fender never had "coral pink" or "salmon pink" in its colour catalog. I saw the Shadows at the Paris Olympia in 1961, and I dont remember Hank's Strat looking pink but red.
keep in mind that inthe early sixties most Strats were shipped in sunburst, and that many were locally repainted in fiesta red by UK distibutors to meet the demand, and it was not necessarily exacty the same as the original Fender fiesta red colour.

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Re: Is this how we remember the F-red colour?

Postby JimN » 25 Feb 2014, 21:07

Didier wrote:I thought that it was well established that Fender never had "coral pink" or "salmon pink" in its colour catalog. I saw the Shadows at the Paris Olympia in 1961, and I dont remember Hank's Strat looking pink but red.Didier


I don't say, because I don't know, that Hank's first Strat was finished in Coral Pink.

But Fender did have a Coral Pink (or perhaps Coral Red) finish in their range, certainly in the early to mid sixties if no earlier. There was a spate of Jaguars, Jazzmasters and Jazz Basses delivered in the UK with CP on the headstocks (under the logo decal) as well as being the body colour, so theses were clearly not re-finishes.

I saw several original mint Fenders in CP at Jim Elyea's props warehouse in the Hollywood area and immediately recognised the colour from guitars in stock at Hessy's and Crane's (both Liverpool) circa 1963. They were just sold as "red".
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Re: Is this how we remember the F-red colour?

Postby Gary Allen » 25 Feb 2014, 21:13

Joking aside, the same colour always looks different on a maple neck compared with a rosewood.
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