Wonderful Life / Burns - Question

[donna plasky]

This thread has greatly disappointed me. I was originally going to pose my Burns guitar question directly to the Burns Company, since I bought my Burns directly from them. But I thought it would be more fun to ask the question here, as this is a Shadows fan site and it would allow more people to participate in the conversation - and maybe someone else might have wanted to know the answer besides me. I was happy at the point in time where I posted a thank you. Since then, I have checked in on this thread, and I and am disappointed - but not surprised - to see that people have used this as yet another opportunity to argue with me, and to argue with each other. The arguments never end. All this because I asked what year the Burns brand 12-string guitar was invented because it seemed to be earlier than 1964 when the Burns Marvin guitars debuted. It was an air-tight question, with no element of controversy in it, and the simple answer was 1963. This is absolute proof that I cannot ask ask a simple question without it turning ugly. If you want to disagree with that statement, that's fine. But, I will not ask any more questions on this site because I don't like arguments. And there's a big difference between an argument and an exchange of information.

This site has almost 3,000 registered users and only about 5% to 10% of the people ever post. This is why.

[dave robinson]

I must be missing something here. Donna, you got your answer immediately on my first post, which was confirmed by the very knowledgable Stuart Duffy. The rest of it was confusion of what exactly the Double Six is, which arose because there was the original Double Six which came strung with six guitar strings and six bass strings (an octave below) but later the same guitar appeared with normal twelve string tuning (i.e. an octave above) They were still called the Double six after the bass strings were dropped.
Stuart then pointed out something that Hank had told him, about double tracking the Strat in octaves. Hank did use the Double Six on stage, I saw him and he also wrote about it as I said. A few others chipped in with more info from press and TV stuff which was fine. The only thing that constituted any kind of argument was me saying that life was too short because I couldn't be arsed with having to explain the bass strings business. Sorry but I too feel I don't need the hassle and in future will keep my information to myself.

[Billyboygretsch]

Donna I am sorry you feel this way. I think you gained a lot of information you required from this site. I am not sure there were any arguments but some discussion with people airing their views. This is a discussion site after all. Anyway you got your answer 1963 before the introduction of the Marvin.

[StuartD]

I'm sure that Hank did use the Double Six with the bass strings on at least one recording, I remember him writing about it somewhere back then, maybe the Beat Insrumental.

It was I'm the Lonely One. He told me he had to tune it where it was to be played the intonations were out.

SWtu

[dave robinson]

I use a Double Six for 'Don't Talk To Him', 'On The Beach' and 'I'm The Lonely One' and it's one of the cheaper Marquee priced models - stays in tune right up the neck, no problem. I did have the real deal back in the seventies and it was an dreadful guitar by comparison.

[Billyboygretsch]

My marquee Double Six stays in tune pretty well even in this hot weather. Did some Double Sixes have a tremolo system.I would have thought that would be a problem. Still can't think why Hank would play a 12 string live with success and complain about tuning issues in a studio with air conditioning plenty of time and guitar techs on hand. Takes at least twice as long to record his solos as well

[Billyboygretsch]

Has anyone one used one of these tremolo es or have a 12 string with tremolo
http://youtu.be/8Ie_G46D-bo

[Billyboygretsch]

Sorry just seen the Double six Apache

[piecrusty]

This my Double Six, hand built by Barry Gibson around 1998, Rezotube tremelo and a headstock scroll. Burns Legend (Marvin) at side for comparison. Fabulous machine!

[Billyboygretsch]

They look fabulous thanks for posting. Do you have tuning problems with the 12 string