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Re: No Vox, Meazzi, ESE, eTap, Sliders,just a very simple se

Postby ecca » 23 Sep 2014, 07:57

Stuff and nonsense.
It's 100% the player.
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Re: No Vox, Meazzi, ESE, eTap, Sliders,just a very simple se

Postby Twang46 » 23 Sep 2014, 08:57

ecca wrote:Stuff and nonsense.
It's 100% the player.


Things would be very quiet without the rest of the gear !

Dick.
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Re: No Vox, Meazzi, ESE, eTap, Sliders,just a very simple se

Postby dave robinson » 23 Sep 2014, 09:22

ecca wrote:Stuff and nonsense.
It's 100% the player.


If that's the case, what happened at North Notts ? :oops: :lol:
Think about it again Ecca. ;)
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Re: No Vox, Meazzi, ESE, eTap, Sliders,just a very simple se

Postby neil2726 » 23 Sep 2014, 14:43

Isnt Daniel Martin the best Shads guitarist out there at present? Nice to see him going for a few different styles as well!
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Re: No Vox, Meazzi, ESE, eTap, Sliders,just a very simple se

Postby shadowkarl » 23 Sep 2014, 15:09

Great if Danny found his holy grail with the LIttle Walter amp. It must be very satisfying after having tested all the amps -even used by Hank - to arrive at a stage where you can say I have achieved what I was looking for, right from the start of my playing. End of my Quest for that Sound and no further improvement and testing in sight and necessary.
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Re: No Vox, Meazzi, ESE, eTap, Sliders,just a very simple se

Postby Derek Misselbrook » 23 Sep 2014, 15:37

To be fare to Daniel Martin here, I must point out that he hardly plays The Shadow's Music these days, and when he says he has found the sound he likes it's nothing to do with "THAT SOUND" that we hear about and how to get it on here, that's why if you see the gear he uses it's not the recommended outfit as we get told all the time to use, cost has not come into it (like many of us on here that can buy what we want)..........This has come from Dan in the last few days just to put everyone straight.....But as a full time musician he will play any style to earn a living.........With Country Music employing him more.....:)
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Re: No Vox, Meazzi, ESE, eTap, Sliders,just a very simple se

Postby Tigerdaisy » 23 Sep 2014, 16:08

ecca wrote:Stuff and nonsense.
It's 100% the player.

Yes, I'd almost agree with that... I don't visit 'Shadows' clubs often but on the one occasion I did the guy with the cheapest equipment was the most impressive simply because he could play and play extremely well. He had a Squier Strat. The size/cost of your equipment is irrelevant its what you do with it...
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Re: No Vox, Meazzi, ESE, eTap, Sliders,just a very simple se

Postby Twang46 » 23 Sep 2014, 16:42

Tigerdaisy wrote:
ecca wrote:Stuff and nonsense.
It's 100% the player.

Yes, I'd almost agree with that... I don't visit 'Shadows' clubs often but on the one occasion I did the guy with the cheapest equipment was the most impressive simply because he could play and play extremely well. He had a Squier Strat. The size/cost of your equipment is irrelevant its what you do with it...



Budget gear set up properly can allow a very satisfactory "Shads" sound.................but you must have that gear to play through or you will sound like nobody.

The player is the most important part of the sound but, will always remain a part of the sound.

The better the player the better the "sound"..................Yes..........but not always, I have heard very good players get caught up in the Gear Acquisition race & finish up constantly changing things around instead of just playing through a set up that suits them (& if they are a professional pleases their clients/audiences).

HBM's live sound in the early 60's was great using just an echo box sitting on a chair & a Vox amp to play his Strat through.
His orig Strat would have been to the same standard as a current USA Strat today, no custom shop/signature guitars from Fender in those days.

If HBM could do it in 1961 why can't people do it today with just guitar-echo box-amp ?..............the electronic gear is out there of course, many people can get so very close to "That Sound" , witness the sound files posted here & on places like utube

A "bedroom" player like me can get a (close enough for me) Shads sound with a Zoom G3 & a small valve amp, playing a more or less standard MIM Strat (11-54 strings)

I still think around 50-75% down to the player

Oh well 8-)
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Re: No Vox, Meazzi, ESE, eTap, Sliders,just a very simple se

Postby Tigerdaisy » 23 Sep 2014, 17:34

Well I agree you wouldn't get too far without some reasonable equipment, but there is an understandable obsession with equipment- a bit like the amateur photographer who often also obsesses over equipment. I think it isn't until you get 'old' that you almost learn the lesson that its the operator and not really the equipment that produces the end product.
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Re: No Vox, Meazzi, ESE, eTap, Sliders,just a very simple se

Postby dave robinson » 23 Sep 2014, 17:39

Amen to that Martin. :)
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